Sunday, May 30, 2010

Israelis Board American Boats, Turkish Ship in International Waters - Tweets Report 3 Murdered, Over 30 Injured by IDF - Updated

Updated - Up to 16 murdered

Eighty miles of the coast of Gaza:


From
Mondoweiss Twitter page:

RT @r7y6: The Qur'an is being read for the dead on board. May Allah bring peace to their souls.#flotilla via @TwiddleEastNews
16 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @SubMedina: People killed on #flotilla. Pleading for help can be heard in English & Hebrew.
19 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @ismpalestine: People have been killed on the #flotilla.
25 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @r7y6: The message being repeated in Hebrew:"Israeli navy, we need help,we are civilians, we have critically injured ppl" #flotilla
25 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @avinunu: A day that will live in infamy. #flotilla
28 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @GazaFreedom: "We need help. Don't use violence against us,we are civilians" - Woman aboard #Flotilla
29 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @Jew4palestine: Watching IHH Insani Yardim Vakfi @livestream http://www.livestream.com/insaniyardim (lady screaming we have people hurt)
29 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @avinunu: Turkish TV live feed from Mavi Mari: "We have 3 people killed" #flotilla #Gaza
29 minutes ago via TweetDeck

RT @ShipToGazaGr: Live ammo fired against the ships from helicopters and zodiacs - both pass ships boarded by israeli forces #flotilla
35 minutes ago via TweetDeck

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

They are warmongers! We need to stop giving them money.
Now there is more bloodshed at sea in international waters? WTF do they then they are?

Anonymous said...

They are warmongers! We need to stop giving them money.
Now there is more bloodshed at sea in international waters? WTF do they then they are?

Anonymous said...

I don't understand the need for killing these civilians - could they not have simply been removed from their boats, detained and deported?

Did they not understand the whole world was watching?

-OzMud

Kathleen said...

Israeli violence is once again unrestrained -- there are women and children on those ships. Why does America give so much aid to Israel?

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

Phil, you are such a drama queen! Why don't you post something worth reading? Tweets? *laughing*
Yeah, if I actually had someone attacking me I'd be tweeting...uh huh!
And you forgot to post that when the IDF boarded the shitilla those peaceful civilians came after them with whatever they could get their hands on. You also forgot to post some of those IDF members were injured.
You also missed you 15 minutes of fame!

WakeUpAmerica said...

Bat Shit at 10:13 pm doesn't seem to understand that the people on the flotilla would of course use any means possible to get the truth out as it was happening such as: tweeting, texting, blogging, calling. What a dumbass!

I generally support Israel, but this is reprehensible. It appears that the current government leaders have short memories.

Celia Harrison said...

Where is our military? Why are they not stopping these attacks on civilian vessels? Oh yea, I forgot getting organized enough to start organizing to stop a man made catastrophy took more than a month. Israel has done a complete turn about and become what in the past was their own worst nightmare.

Anonymous said...

Mr Makabit.. being boarded in international waters is an act of piracy.. you have every legal right to defend yourself with whatever you can find when being boarde by a heavily armed pirate thug

Irishgirl said...

There are now reports of up to 19 dead.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/may/31/israel-troops-gaza-ships

Anonymous said...

This is outrageous, and an act of piracy by Israel.

http://twitter.com/freegazaorg

mary b said...

Thank you for posting this. The MSM in our Country will probably not even report this, and if they do, they'll make it somehow look deserved.
I am a supporter of Israel. AND Palestine. This was a humanitarian ship, bringing in humanitarian needs not bombs. Israel has crossed the line.
I hope President Obama does more than a few condemning words. This has gone much too far. It needs to stop. Israel is acting like the germans did. Not their people, their government. The right wingnuts there and here have too much power.
Phil, what do YOU think will end up happening?

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

WakeUpAmericanNazi 10:58,

Israel has the right to board, they knew Israel would be boarding and these so called peace activist were planning on this all along.
And most of them are from Turkey and I'd bet they are ALL Muslim. Another one of those bull shit "martyr" and 72 virgins scenario. And if your Muslim buddies could have gotten the whole boat load shot it would have been exactly what your Muslim buddies wanted. You are nothing to them but useful idiots.

mocha said...

"Israel has the right to board" Nonsense. They were in international waters. It is clear you hate muslims. It is clear you have a radical pro-Jew point of view. You must realize you have little chance of fostering understanding for your position with your approach so far. So it seems your goal at this blog is to silence those who disagree with you by "turning it up to 11". Typical Palin-bot.

Anonymous said...

The MSM IS on this, as well it should be.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/01/world/middleeast/01flotilla.html?hp

Israel will not get a free pass this time...
alaskapi

WakeUpAmerica said...

Sorry, Bat Shit, but you are wrong on all counts. I'm California born and raised. If I have Muslim friends, I am unaware of it as we don't usually discuss our religions. I have always been an Israel supporter. However, attacking a humanitarian group in INTERNATIONAL WATERS, is indefensible. Furthermore, dumbass, I have spent many years teaching about the horrendous treatment of Jews trying to colonize Israel after WWII, but wrong is wrong. This is wrong, and there is no way to spin it otherwise.

Why don't you take a break and see if you can go find your soul in your underwear drawer? Perhaps then you can see that Israelis are not always right by default and anyone who opposes them is wrong. You are one of those people who makes God weep when you open your mouth. Blind allegiance to a cause serves no pupose other than to perpetuate hatred. Oh wait.....are you a Palin fan?

Irishgirl said...

There is international outrage over this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/may/31/israel-troops-gaza-ships

Anonymous said...

"Israeli violence is once again unrestrained "

Umm, if the violence was unrestrained how come the flotilla wasn't completely destroyed ?
As for the laughable idea that these people were "peace activists" since when did "peace activists" arm themselves with knives, baseball bats and guns?
Witness the usual international outrage at Israel's actions and compare it to the silence that followed the slaughter of 90 worshippers at a mosque in Pakistan.

Anonymous said...

Where was the international outrage over the slaughter of 90 worshippers at a mosque in Pakistan ?

Anonymous said...

"So it seems your goal at this blog is to silence those who disagree with you by "turning it up to 11".

Just because someone doesn't share your view of the world doesn't mean they are trying to "silence" people.Why so hysterical ?

mocha said...

"Why so hysterical?"

Typical Palinbot junior high response - when someone disagrees with you, insist they're overly emotional. Read Makinshitup Bat Guano's posts, he is the one who is not in control of himself. He hasn't expressed a "world view". He's insulted Phil, denigrated muslims and insisted it's completely OK for the Israeli army to murder civilians. World opinion is not coming down on the side of Israel on this one. It will be fun when Palin sides with Israel and is once again 180 degrees from what right-thinking people believe. God Bless!

WakeUpAmerica said...

Slaughtering 90 worshipers in a mosque in Pakistan is as indefensible as firing on a humanitarian mission in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. It isn't a case of one is wrong and one is right. This type of behavior toward ANYONE is wrong, inhumane, uncivilized. It doesn't matter what their religion is, what color their skin is, what country they are from, what language they speak. IT IS WRONG TO TREAT PEOPLE THIS WAY.

As for dumbass Anon@8:40, yeah knives and bats (never saw mention of guns) compare to the arsenal of the IDF complete with helicopters. OOOOH NO! They have knives and bats. Oh goody goody, now we have a right to turn all our fire power on them and board them in (may I mention it again?) INTERNATIONAL WATERS. The flotilla, BTW, has every right to be in INTERNATIONAL WATERS and to not be attacked. Or do the laws only apply to the Israelis???

Anonymous said...

"World opinion is not coming down on the side of Israel on this one."

When has "world opinion" ever come down on the side of Israel? From the genocidal rantings of most muslim governments, the anti-semitic mutterings of Europe and Russia and Africa to the anti-Israel bile spewed by the American Left "world opinion" has never defended Israel.
Isn't it strange that the usual suspects here are fired up at the deaths in the Med but there was a stony silence when muslims slaughter 90 other muslims in a mosque. Seems the left only care about deaths if Israel is involved. I wonder why ?

Anonymous said...

"Oh goody goody, now we have a right to turn all our fire power on them and board them in "

If the IDF turned "all their firepower on them" how come the ships are still in the water?

"Slaughtering 90 worshipers in a mosque in Pakistan is as indefensible as firing on a humanitarian mission in INTERNATIONAL WATERS."

Then where was the hysteria from the "progressive Left" about hose deaths ? Seems the Left only care about deaths when they can use them to attack Israel.

Anonymous said...

Peace activists armed with knives, iron bars and guns attack Israeli soldiers armed with paintball guns. Israeli soldiers stabbed, beaten and kicked senseless - Israeli soldiers open fire to save their lives. Deaths occur - the same Leftists who told us not to jump to conclusions whenever jihadists murder civilians, waste no time condemning Israel. Hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

"@Jew4palestine:"

Sounds like "Queers4Palestine". Why do people support people that want to see them dead? What a strange world today's Leftists inhabit !

WakeUpAmerica said...

So, are any Israelis dead? Injured? I mean, they were unprepared (IDF unprepared? Bwaaahaahaaa!! In what lifetime?) for resistance. Why were the Israelis boarding the ships uninvited and in international waters? BTW, those of you here with your blind allegiance, I would feel the same outrage if the tables were turned. My outrage has entirely to do with how a humanitarian mission was approached in international waters and attacked. My outrage has nothing to do with Jew vs Muslim or Israeli vs Anyone. This is what is wrong with the world. The sheeple follow with blind allegiance and treat others who are different like crap.

Pretty much the whole world knows the reputation of the IDF for intelligence gathering, stealth missions, and military prowess. Un-fucking-prepared for resistance? My ass!!

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

WakeUpNaziAmerica,

if you actually had a brain you would know that a person is more likely to be stabbed by someone armed with knife than they are to be shot by a person holding a gun.
But you are from the land of fruits and nuts so your ignorance is understandable. Yeah you like Jews are long as you can teach about them being pushed around and murdered. Once they stop you are out of business and they are on your shit list.
And yes there were injured IDF but you can't read anything that doesn't consist of Jew hating propaganda which is typical.
And no I'm not a fan of Muslims, they have a tendency to blow people up, cut off heads and murder their own more than anyone around, except for those in their midst that just plain ignore it and call themselves "moderate" Muslims.
You can also give up on the Palin-bot remarks because I wouldn't know what she was doing if it wasn't for the likes of Phil and his fantasies about her.

Anonymous said...

"(IDF unprepared? Bwaaahaahaaa!! In what lifetime?) "

You obviously haven't watched much news over the last decade or so have you. The IDF were unprepared for the war against Hizbollah several years ago and in this case they expected the usual anti-Israel Euro-weenies and America Leftists that normally make up these guilt convoys to Gaza. Instead they had to deal with a mob of hard-core Turkish Islamists intent on murder.

"I would feel the same outrage if the tables were turned."

Yeah, sure you would. Nice try.

Anonymous said...

"The sheeple follow with blind allegiance and treat others who are different like crap."

Maybe in other parts of the world people do that but not in the United States. Look at the way Pakistani muslims slaughter fellow muslims on a daily basis....Americans are extremely tolerant of different people.

WakeUpAmerica said...

Anon@6:47 and 6:50, first, using a pseudonym would make a conversation with you more coherent. Second, more than a nice try. I am not so stuck on my allegience to anything that I can't see an injustice when it occurs. Third. I wasn't just talking about America by any stretch of the imagination; however, in general I agree about America being more tolerant. We do have pockets of extreme intolerance (ie: Palin and her followers ). I believe that it is a big mistake to support someone or something unequivically. Nobody is perfect and it is in their best interest to speak up when the cross the lines of civility.

WakeUpAmerica said...

O dear, Bat Shit Crazy, did I hit a nerve. Your argument doesn't hold water. I'm fairly busy today, just checking the blog when I take a break, so if IDF are dead or injured, enlighten me. Give me the facts, the source of the info, and leave out your emotion. I will gladly listen to what you produce.

What you don't get is that I don't care if it is Jews, Muslims, Cherokees, or blacks. I care about how we treat each other in this world. Thousands of years on earth and we haven't progressed one bit in this area as a species. Don't you find that sad?

Anonymous said...

"I care about how we treat each other in this world."

Then you should care that Hamas wants the extermination of the Jews in Israel...all else flows from that fact. Those who support Hamas support Genocide.

Anonymous said...

"so if IDF are dead or injured, enlighten me."

Ten IDF injured (despite wearing body armor) and one in critical condition - the soldier thrown 30ft from one deck to another. Watch the videos of the Turkisn mob beating IDF soldiers with iron bars and then read PA's whining about innocent "peace Activists" being "murdered".

WakeUpAmerica said...

Anon@9:35, what are your sources? Perhaps you could be less emotional and more factual. The throwing of the soldier was on yahoo news, but as we all know, the news is often wrong. That's why I want to know where you are getting this info that you are certain is correct. I am still perplexed that the IDF would board the flotilla and be unprepared for resistance. Makes no sense.

Anon@9:12, "Then you should care that Hamas wants the extermination of the Jews in Israel...all else flows from that fact. Those who support Hamas support Genocide." I call bullshit. How do you know what I care about or support other than what I have voiced here. Caring about what has happened in international waters means nothing more than that I care about how humans treat one another. The problem between the Israelis and the Palestinians is not a black and white issue. While I support the belief that the Jews have a right to a homeland (Israel), I also know that Israel has not always been a good neighbor. I am not an expert in mid-east politics; however, I don't see that either side has done everything it can to bring peace to the area.

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

WakeUpNaziAmerica,

get over yourself. There isn't anything smart enough about you to hit one of my nerves. Besides, you aren't the first to try and insult me, so the effect, if there ever was one wore out a long time ago.
And if you have time to screw around on this site you have time to look up news elsewhere. So don't demand I prove anything to you. It just shows you know exactly what the rest of us know but can't admit it since it will make your argument the mote point that it is.
I agree with you on one thing, you "don't care if it's Jews"...so shut your left wing Jew hating pie hole and drop dead.
Jew hating sack of camel crap that you are. *kiss kiss*

WakeUpAmerica said...

Oh dear, Bat Shit Crazy. Are you a bit over the edge? Well, let me step back a bit then. I can see that this is a highly charged emotional issue for you. You are like a frightened dog that has been cornered and is snapping at everyone. None of us knows exactly what happened because we weren't there. In fact, some who were there are probably unclear as well. Second, we all know that the news from all sides is biased and bent on convincing their audience of their point of view. Third, look for the inconsistencies in the arguments here and ask "why?"

Someone on the following thread put forth that the "humanitarian effort" was supported by a known militant group that supports Hamas. That commentor further implies that the flotilla group was bringing guns to Hamas and that this contraband was the reason for the IDF boarding the ships in international waters. So, I have to wonder, if all that is true, why would the IDF board armed only with paint guns and be unprepared for resistance? It makes no sense. As far as I can see, either the person posting is totally wrong or the IDF is trying to spin a bad scene and make themselves look like victims.

Any way you look at this, something is not quite right. I find it difficult to believe, however, that the IDF could not have prevented the flotilla from entering the blockaded area by some other less violent means.

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

WakeUpNaziAmerica,

I'm not sure where you can actually support the fact that you are the calm, cool and collected side of the argument here. Aren't you the one that started attacking me by referring to me as "Bat Shit" when you first posted your comments on here? Now that sounds like a "frightend dog" to me. Come in snapping those fags!
Although I won't insult the K-9s of the world by referring to you as one. Just another rabid lefty is all you are.
See this is exactly where you far left wing fools fall flat on your face. It's OK for you to blow up, murder and call names but by gawd the other side is always the ones "over the edge". That is totally funny!

Now you start claiming that "None of us knows exactly what happened because we weren't there." Really?

Then shouldn't you have taken that approach the very first time you posted to this thread? You didn't though because the first thing you did was blame Israel,
"I generally support Israel, but this is reprehensible. It appears that the current government leaders have short memories."
Now what you say is a big change from your first post! Interesting...

So don't call me the one that is an over the edge frightend dog on this one.
You believe copied and pasted "tweets" by a broken down wannabe composer that clearly sides with the Jew haters constantly but now you want to wait and see, although I know you have probably seen the videos of the IDF being swarmed by the Muslims (and we know they are Turkish Muslims) on the first flotilla. Can't believe that though 'cause it wasn't posted by Phil! Oh gasp!

You are rambling about paint guns (they also had pistols) but forget those like you would have had a bigger shit fit if they had taken their machine guns. Remember the clowns on the flotilla were "peaceful" and weren't going in to kill anyone but just wanted to deliver needed supplies blah blah blah. So why attack the IDF if you are "peaceful"? The IDF didn't go in firing did they? Oh, wait...you won't believe anything since none of us were there...at least not if it puts the IDF in a less evil light.
So try just a bit harder to convince the rest of us who stand with Israel that Israel is to blame. I truly believe this crowd on these boats had this exact thing in mind when they sailed, Phil Munger did just by what he wrote.

I also have to comment on your remark about not knowing your "friends" religious beliefs.
You are full of shit! You have spent years teaching about Jews being treated badly but no nothing about the religions of those you are trying to convince?

*roaring with laughter here*

Holy crap you are just full of interesting comments every time I go back and read what you post!

WakeUpAmerica said...

Bat Shit, have you had your rabies shot? Just asking.

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

GoBackToSleepNazi,

Why? Are you planning on tracking me down and biting me? It seems you would probably accomplish more that way because you seem to have lost the argument here.
*laughing at you (again)*

WakeUpAmerica said...

Oh aren't you the clever one. Snipe snipe. Sigh.... Well it is time for me to leave your alternate universe. Namaste.

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

NowDropDeadNazi,

No, just being truthful. You started with insults and end with insults but you can't win the argument. It's like Phil, he started a "dialogue" with me a few years back about Israel and could never finish it. He just sort of...disappeared off the message board...as with you it was pretty entertaining to watch him fade like old wallpaper.
So I agree it's time for you to run along home to mama now!
*laughing even harder (at you)*

WakeUpAmerica said...

Bat Shit,
My, my you seem to have anger management issues. Actually, I responded to you in the first place because your comments were so irrational and obviously blindly defending one side. You refuse to be objective and look at the possibility that maybe the IDF are at least partially at fault. I on the other hand was willing to adapt as more info came out. BTW, I heard from the Israeli ambassador to the US today that one IDF was critically injured. That is very regrettable and yet, according to him, the only one of the IDF with significant injuries. Perhaps he is wrong. So when I look at how the injuries and deaths stack up on each side, I have to ponder exactly who was the perpetrator here and who the victim.

I seriously doubt that Phil "...faded like old wallpaper." I suspect he simply tired, as I have, of attempting intelligent discourse with an angry, irrational person. Namaste

WakeUpAmerica said...

BTW, Batman, you seem overly obsessed with the term "Nazi." There is a plethora of insulting nouns in the English language; you really should expand your horizons. Just a suggestion. Don't go nuclear over it.

Makabit Bat Guriel said...

I thought you gave up and moved on WakeUpNaziAmerica?

And to answer your remark...
Nah, Phil didn't try any type of dialogue. Like everything he does or has done concerning any Jew, he wanted to run the show. He likes to tell Jews to sit down and shut up a lot. Don't you, Phil! I just don't buy into his bull crap. So he faded like I said into nothingness...tra la la

Rather like the crap you are trying to sell on your idea of an "intelligent discourse" speaking of "one-sided* bull shit. There hasn't been anything intelligent about it, your big deal has been to claim anything about Israel has been a lie if it doesn't come from your angle. I believe it's been something like *we weren't there so we don't know*...OK!

You also can't give me shit about
the use of the term Nazi when your friend Phil here is leaving a slime trail to the house next door to the Palins to rub noses with the writer that uses the term Nazi to refer to the Palins. How odd!
Or haven't you read or listened to the "Joe the Writer" and his interviews?

You on the other hand are probably pretty close to one considering the only time I've seen the use of "wake up america" has been on a site condemning Jews and Israel.
It's been used by the likes of those that think like David Duke and his ilk. I'd say you are in that mix some where! Or is it just a coincidence that you show up here using that as a screen name?
I don't believe it is!
Now are you done or should I rub your nose in the crap some more?

wake-up-america.net

WakeUpAmerica said...

Wow, Phil! You have done a great job on your recent postings. I'm impressed with how you keep your comments an open forum and don't censor the people from the alternate universes. ;-) You certainly have atracted a couple of rabid apes-not to cast aspersions on apes-from parts unknown.

I really appreciate the UK video and the one about the Rachel Corrie. I never knew the significance of the name before. How can anyone justify the killing of a young woman with a bulldozer? There seems to be a tremendous amount of hate being bred on both sides of the Israel/Palestine issue. How sad for the people there who only want peace.