In the most recent PA post, I noted a You Tube from Sarah Palin's old Church, the Wasilla Assembly of God. Last night, apparently they pulled their web site. Now, it has been noted that her present Church's pastor is categorizing violence in Israel (and possibly in the Occupied Territories) as "God's judgement" against non-Christians.
Please - if you have the time - start pulling any material from that site and get it recorded digitally somewhere. It may be gone in minutes.
8 comments:
Has Sarah Palin been a member of The Wasilla Assemby of God while this guy was the pastor?
It seems to me that she left it quite awhile ago.
this is the pastor at Wasilla Bible Church, her church since 2002.
The quote about judgement of Non-Christians was attributed to a "Brickner". Brickner is not the pastor and I believe you know that Phil. I don't know who he is...a special speaker perhaps?
I read your blog and have come to respect you for telling the truth. But to put forth falsehoods knowingly is unbecoming. I have come to expect that of the major media but you generally tell the truth.
As you know, Larry Kroon is the pastor and he is NOT anti-semitic.
Are you going to correct this?
thanks for the correction. I don't know who Brickner is, though. Who is he? Could you give some detail as to his relationship to the church, and, perhaps to the Palins?
David Brickner is Executive Director of Jews for Jesus.
Palin was in the congregation in the Wasilla church when he addressed it.
One of his choice quotes:
"But what we see in Israel, the conflict that is spilled out throughout the Middle East, really which is all about Jerusalem, is an ongoing reflection of the fact that there is judgment. There is judgment that is going on in the land, and that’s the other part of this Jerusalem Dilemma. When Jesus was standing in that temple, He spoke that that judgment was coming, that there’s a reality to the judgment of unbelief …. And Jesus’ words have echoed down through the centuries. Not a generation after He uttered this promise, Titus and his Roman legions marched into that city and destroyed both the city and the temple … Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It’s very real. When Isaac was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment—you can’t miss it."
http://blogs.jta.org/politics/2008/09/02/1226/sarah-palins-looming-pastor-problem/
OK...so he is the director of Jews for Jesus. He is a Jew himself with perhaps some more radical views of God's relationship to the Jewish people.
He must have been a guest at the church. This is not someone under whose teaching Palin sits every week.
In Sullivans post, he quotes Kroon as confirming that Palin was there for Brickner's speech. But that is not an ongoing speaker in that church, I would be surprised if he was there more than once.
If a web site had information pulled from it you may find the original content in this archive:
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
Phil, you're just being silly here. The AOG video site went down because liberals like you referred every person in the internet world to these sites, hoping for some controversial dirt on Palin to counteract the comments made by Rev. Wright. You even include predigested interpretations to accompany the links, in case they don't think right.
The goal of the WBC web site is to spread an evangelical message as widely as possible. There's no "vast right wing conspiracy" to take down sites, except in your own mind. Is that a projection of what you would do in similar circumstances?
The WBC website has been hit hard, with over 116 GBytes downloaded in the past five days alone. They are coping with the traffic so far, partly by trimming the MP3 bit rate down to make for smaller downloads.
There are no plans to take down any material except for some of the older 2007 sermons, at least the audio files, to make room for new stuff. The transcripts should remain available indefinitely.
David Brickner spoke at WBC once before, about four years ago. The Palin's came to WBC this August to dedicate their new son. I really doubt they had any idea who the speaker or subject would be, except that the Bible would likely be the focus. No matter what you think of Brickner's viewpoint, trying to somehow link his statements to Palin's views is rather lame. I think this is called "guilt by association", isn't it?
Since you don't live that far away, why not sit through a few sermons at the church, and see what you think about WBC's focus and attitudes before forming an opinion?
Finally, as I recall you aren't too fond of the Israelis yourself, especially their treatment of Palestinians. It's ironic that you are objecting to someone saying that God is opposed to Israeli behavior, and is judging them. You may disagree that the solution is for them to accept that Jesus really was the Messiah, but to label a Jew who does accept Jesus (also a Jew) as "anti-Semitic" is hypocritical, especially since you've been called "anti-Semitic" yourself. I don't think the label was justified in either case, and I would think you would be more cautious about passing it on. But I guess that politics does make strange bedfellows.
Post a Comment