Monday, September 8, 2008

Saradise Lost - Chapter Forty -- What Do Rape Gurney Joe, Charlie Fannon and Alaska HB 270 Have in Common? --- SARAH PALIN

We are starting to get into some new "You can't make this shit up!" territory.

Right after I asked myself "Why did I forget this?" I thought, "Why haven't our Alaska reporters dredged this back up yet?" And, "How many MORE stories like this does Sarah's inconvenient past STILL hold?"

This story has gone viral on the internet over the course of today, and rather than link to the original reporting in the Frontiersman, I'll quote their whole May 22, 2000 story, because it is very important:

Published on Monday, May 22, 2000 9:00 PM AKDT

JO C. GOODE / The Frontiersman / May 23, 2000

ANCHORAGE - Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.

The governor signed House Bill 270, sponsored by Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, outside the Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) exam room at Alaska Regional Hospital. In attendance at the signing were members of victims advocate groups, law enforcement agencies and legislators.

The new law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur.

"We would never bill the victim of a burglary for fingerprinting and photographing the crime scene, or for the cost of gathering other evidence," Knowles said. "Nor should we bill rape victims just because the crime scene happens to be their bodies."

While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.

Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.

"In the past we've charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don't want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer," Fannon said.

According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.

"Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs," Fannon said.

The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. Id like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things, Fannon said.

Fannon said he intends to include the cost of exams required to collect evidence in a restitution request as a part of a criminals sentencing.

Palmer police chief Laren Zager said that to his knowledge, no sexual assault victim has ever been billed by the city of Palmer for an exam to collect evidence of a crime. Zager, who has been police chief since January, said he would never expect a victim to be burdened with the cost of a police investigation.

"I'm prepared to pay every dime in an investigation. As long as I am chief, I would never bill a victim," Zager said.

The new bill would also make law enforcement agencies that are investigating a sexual assault responsible for the costs of testing victims for sexually transmitted diseases and emergency contraception.

As some may recall, Charlie Fannon's boss at that time was Sarah Palin. She had recruited Charlie to fulfill her agenda. This was part of it. Palin appreciated his help. She called his hire the best decision of her administration. Many times. More on that later.

The person who is going to be bringing Sarah Palin up to speed on foreign affairs over the next few weeks is Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I). Here is what Lieberman had to say about rape victims in Connecticut, hoping for the "morning after pill," back in his 2006 campaign:

Joe Lieberman supports the approach of the Catholic hospitals when it comes to contraceptives for rape victims (as reported in The New Haven Register, by Gregory B. Hladky on 03/13/2006, via KissJoeGoodbye.Com).

Lieberman said he believes hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for "principled reasons" shouldn't be forced to do so.
"In Connecticut, it shouldn't take more than a short ride to get to another hospital," he said.

More tomorrow. Shannyn Moore is meeting with Eric Croft in the morning, possibly with more HB 270 sponsors. They will all be going through their e-mails, along with people at STAR - Standing Together Against Rape.


newtonusr said...

I am so looking forward to seeing Palin get squashed by Biden.

neurophius said...

Why is John McCain attracted to people (like Joe Lieberman and Sarah Palin) who have nothing but contempt for rape victims?

One obvious implication of the Wasilla city position on rape kit costs under the Palin administration is that victims who knew of the policy might hesitate to report the crimes, for fear of the financial costs involved...of course, that would make Palin's crime statistics look better.

Eureka Springs, AR said...

Here's a quote via Jane and New Haven Register March '03

This fight isn't exclusively being drawn along party lines.U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, who often takes a conservative line on social issues, is facing a liberal Democratic primary challenge from wealthy Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont. But that hasn't stopped Lieberman from supporting the approach of the Catholic hospitals when it comes to contraceptives for rape victims. Lieberman said he believes hospitals that refuse to give contraceptives to rape victims for "principled reasons" shouldn't be forced to do so. "In Connecticut, it shouldn't take more than a short ride to get to another hospital," he said.

cbl said...

"testing victims for sexually transmitted diseases and emergency contraception"

did Opportunist Sarah happen to see that ?? and directed her Chief in hopes of using it politically at some later date ???

fuck that, think about this pig Fannon's mindset - clearly not seeing it as a true assault, merely some lil gal not saying no loud enough

Oinky Mc Oinkington

Anonymous said...

While Shannon is talking to Croft, I'd also like to know who's idea was it to file the ethics complaint against Renkes back in 2005...was it Croft or Palin?

Philip Munger said...

anon @ #5 - What is your point?

neurophius said...

re: the picture above...the Pitbull looks rabid and ready to bite, and I don't see a lot of lipstick there.

cbl said...


yeah doncha love it ? can never see it without hearing this in my head:

Anonymous said...

Odd that you would take issue with rape victims having to pay for thier evidence collection... YET you totally justify your need to victimize teen families.

Remember Palin (the adult) is the problem, not the rape victim or the teen mother. Unless, of course you plan on re victimizing those that have been raped? Just like you did to a teen mother. Eh?

Yours truly,

cbl said...


your commenting here is a 'tell' that your side is very very nervous about what's to be uncovered. and that makes us happy

nobody here has taken on a teen mother - believe it was your side using said teen and her special needs brother as human shields

aren't you late for your afternoon cheetos and juice ?

CT Bob said...

Wow. It amazes me how that post about Lieberman's stance on Plan B contraceptives has continued to generate hits on my blog well over 2 years later.

Thanks for the link, and keep up the great work here!

Anonymous said...

Anony Mouse here,

Gosh how did you know I like cheetos and juice?

Here is my issue with Munger:

Munger justified his posting of that remake photo of McCain and Bristol. see his 'chaper 24'.

Munger thinks it is okay because the McCain camp made up some icky remakes of Obama's children.


Munger has decided he can continue to victimize Bristol with that remake of the Juno poster with McCain and Bristol.

Don't you think the present GOP, with thier values on pro-life, victimize teen mothers enough?

Yet Munger feels it is okay to add to the GOP pro-life values mess via the reposting of the remake Juno poster. Good grief leave the movies out of it. Ah, last I checked teen pregancy was some real life stuff.

In my eyes, Munger is no different than the present GOP pro-life views.

As a teen mother, nearly 30 years ago (here is the math for you = I'm almost 50 year old), victimization of teen mothers is still alive and well. And it ain't just the present GOP and their stupid pro-life views, it is guys like Munger that justify thier continued victimization of teen mothers.

Did you know there is a entire network of teen mothers in Alaska? Both young and old. It has been around for nearly 50 years.

Once a teen mother, always a teen mother.

Here is a thought for you to absorb:

Just because the present GOP has some really screwed up issues with pro-choice, doesn't give licence for others (i.e. guys like Munger) to further the difficulties a young mother has with the choices she has made (or has).

That repost of the remake poster with McCain and Bristol, only makes it difficult. Munger makes it MORE difficult with his justification for reposting it. Now how sick is that?

Here is another thought to ponder:
For the past 22 years, I've hosted young preggo ones in my house. I happen to support any choice they make, as long has they make that choice. I like to consider my home a safe haven, away from people like Sarah and Munger.

My house is not faith based and we fund our safe haven on our own. (we have gotten gifts from individuals that have stayed with us over the years.)

Lastly, cheetos and juice are not just for afternoons. We happen to enjoy the snack all hours of the night or day. It makes for great conversation with young people who are learning to make choices for themselves.

It is a sick thing Munger has done with the repost of the poster. I'm begining to think it is sicker than Sarah and her views on pro-life.

I can't wait to trash him in public. I wish I had a oosik to hit him over the head with... might knock some of those brain cells around and maybe he'll figure it out.

So cbl, what side do you think I'm on? What is my 'tell'?

Ya all don't need to victimize another teen mother just because the present GOP is fucked up.

Palin and her views are the problem here, not her "human shields".

Philip Munger said...

thanks for continuing to remind us of your views, anony MOUSE.

Are you coming to the Saturday stuff? I'd like to meet you.

Anonymous said...

Should the state pay for my recuperation, including my entire hospital stay after I've been assaulted by some thug, so I can testify at the trial?

Where do you draw the line??

Anonymous said...

As the LifeNews article points out, the origin of this fallacy seems to stem from an article by the Wasilla paper, The Frontiersman in 2000.

In that story Police Chief Fannon was quoted as standing against legislation that would force local municipalities to pick up the costs of rape kits being performed. In the interview Fannon said that, upon conviction, he favored the criminals being charged for the costs.

The story mentions that Fannon claimed that at the time Wasilla did have a policy that rape victims' insurance would be charged for the kits being performed but there was no mention that victims themselves were charged and no claim that any ever were.

red said...

thank you


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