Friday, December 5, 2008

Aaron Caught It, Brendan Didn't

Anchorage AM Radio KFQD talk show host and Anchorage Daily News columnist, Dan Fagan, started an internet presence, called the Alaska Standard, apparently on October 1st.

The site's masthead proclaims, "Raising the banner of journalism in Alaska." Fagan lists, as of today, the following people as contributors:

Dan Fagan, Rebecca Logan, Dave Dittman, Alex Gimarc, Glen Biegel, Penny Nixon, Marc Langland, Rep. Mike Hawker, Glenn Clary, Loren Leman, Ken Boyd, John Binkley, Sarah Erkmann, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, Dan Fauske, Becky Hultberg, Jim Minnery, Larry Norene Ralph Samuels, Dan Jarrell, Rep. Charisse Millett, Dave Stieren, Mead Treadwell, Paul Laird, Scott Hawkins, Matt Moon, Paula Easley, Mike Porcaro, P J Hill.


I can find contributions by many of these folks at the site, but not all. And I look forward to seeing more opportunities for great Alaskans, like Mead Treadwell, to express their views.

I don't visit the site very often, but it looks like it will shape up to be something viable. But "journalism"?

Brendan Joel Kelley, in this week's Flashlight column at the Anchorage Press, tried to compare Fagan's blog to the most interesting new internet journal in Alaska, the Alaska Dispatch. As far as I can determine, this was Kelley's first reference to the Dispatch.

In the Flashlight piece, Kelley waxed about Fagan's blog. And, as Aaron Selbig noted yesterday, at The Penitent Scribe, Kelley was imprecise in his description of Fagan's new niche:

I love political blogs and read every one that's listed on the left side of this page.


I guess the problem I have is when ambitious sites like this declare their intention to "raise the banner of journalism" and pretend to be something they are not.


Let me try to be clear on this, as I think I have a special perspective on this as both a journalist and as the former publisher of one of the first politically-oriented websites in Alaska. The argument that many bloggers, AM radio talk show hosts and "citizen journalists" seem to be making is that the mainstream media is so full of biased and political bent, it's up to them to put out information and reporting to counter it.


And that's just fine. Put out your opinion. Get your thoughts into the marketplace of ideas. But remember one thing: there is, and always will be, a place for trained journalists, folks who spend all of their time chasing the stories that matter to their community and trying to present them in an unfiltered, unbiased way. Sure, journalists have political ideals of their own and sometimes it's difficult to keep those biases from creeping into stories. But every journo I know ALWAYS has that fact in mind and holds close to their heart the true purpose of their profession: to serve their community.


Journalists, unlike bloggers, always have their bylines attached to what they write and face consequences for getting facts wrong or for painting a story in a slanted way.


You are a blog, Alaska Standard, as are the rest of Alaska's political opinion blogs. Go with it. You are not trained journalists, you are sellers of a political ideology.


When Fagan told Kelley, "We’re going to have people who are liberal post and help too..." Kelley didn't come back with what most journalists would have immediately wanted to ask, "Which liberal journalists?"


I suppose we'll find out soon. Maybe Dan has Brendan in mind, eh? Probably not me, though. Unlike Brendan, I'm not about to suck up to the big guy. And yes, Brendan, that's exactly what your F
lashlight piece was. Sucking up.

I can't believe that, on the one hand you compared the Dispatch to the Standard in the same set of paragraphs, and then - on the other hand - neglected to point out the serious distinctions between the approaches toward fact presentation at the two sites. You're young, so maybe you'll learn.

Before I leave this BJK subject for the next, I should point out that Dan Fagan recently won an Alaska broadcasting award. He was honored last month, by the Alaska Broadcasters Association, with their Best Radio Show Division 1 Award, for a segment called "Dan Fagan vs. an Atheist."

After the
KFQD Program Director, Joe Campbell announced the award on Dan's program, I was the first to call and congratulate him. And that, after him having called me a "despicable person" for having defended Obama (after he hung up on me) a couple of days before the election.

Back to Brendan. In Kelley's salute to Robert Dillon, who has had to close down his blog, An Alaskan Abroad, to take a new job as an energy advisor, supporting Sen. Lisa Murkowski's role as ranking member of the Senate Natural Resources Committee, Brendan wrote this:

The new gig means that Dillon has shuttered his popular D.C./Alaska blog, An Alaskan Abroad, which stood head-and-shoulders above the glut of hand-wringing, partially-informed, political blogs here in the state.


Kelley then goes on to compare Dillon to the supposedly incomparable Sheila Toomey, at the Anchorage Daily News. He fails to mention which Alaska blogs are so pathetic. Why? Is it lack of courage, or discretion. After all, we are so few, Brendan.

Writing the Flashlight column at the Press is a tricky niche. Over the years, I've had the opportunity to watch how writers at the Press handled the Flashlight responsibilities along with their other tasks there as journalists. Brendan seems to be caught in some sort of a weird labyrinth of his own making.

He'll need a very good flashlight to find his way out.

Update - Saturday 11:50 p.m: I have changed the inaccurate references to the Alaska Dispatch, which appeared as Alaska Journal or Journal, to be accurate.

image of Dan Fagan by Edward Teller

22 comments:

Unknown said...

just a couple things; you can disagree with my assessment of fagan's site; there has been reporting on there though, particularly by Rebecca Logan reporting on the union contracts before the assembly (with her spin, of course). and you keep referring to the Alaska Journal; i wrote about Alaska Dispatch, Tony and Amanda's online venture, which is similar in that it has a wide array of writers penning pieces for it - though tony and amanda are stellar journalists, far more than opinion makers.
I don't think Dan has liberal writers signed up - what you read was what i put in there, not the conversation we had.
and as for your Dillon/Sheila Toomey reference, Dillon said that in a quote 'i cede that ground to sheila' - i didn't, so whilst you're piling on the criticisms, at least make sure you know of which you speak.
yes, i prefer a website like alaskadispatch and thealaskastandard to single-person blogs written by people without any semblance of a journalism background, and many local blogs drive me nuts - for reasons like this post, where you used inaccurate information to slag me.
and you accuse me of labeling Fagan's site 'journalism' - please use the 'find' tool on the story and you'll see that the only place that word appears is when i quote Fagan's slogan for his site. nowhere else Phil.

you write: "I don't visit the site very often, but it looks like it will shape up to be something viable. But "journalism"?

Brendan Joel Kelley, in this week's Flashlight column at the Anchorage Press, tried to compare Fagan's blog to the most interesting new internet journal in Alaska, the Alaska Journal."

but #1, i don't ever call it journalism. and number two, i never mention 'the alaska journal', whatever that is, much less compare it.

you write "When Fagan told Kelley, "We’re going to have people who are liberal post and help too..." Kelley didn't come back with what most journalists would have immediately wanted to ask, "Which liberal journalists?""

i never used the word 'journalists' and i assume he meant he'd have opinion in there by liberals. and speculating that i'd be the one doing it? sorry, i have an outlet, and i cringe at the thought of being some 'liberal' voice.

you write: "Writing the Flashlight column at the Press is a tricky niche. Over the years, I've had he opportunity to wach how writers at the Press handled the Flashlight responsibilities along with their other tasks there as a journalist. Brendan seems to be caught in some sort of a weird labyrinth of his own making."

do you have any clue what the Flashlight section is (it's not a column bucko) and i don't have any sort of primary responsibility to write it or give it a voice.

you, sir are confused on all of your points. so i wrote i was glad there was a conservative outlet with a lot of voices, did that upset your left-wing sensibilities? so much so that you misread the pieces you quoted, imagined words that weren't in the stories, and assumed you know what sections of my paper are supposed to contain a certain style? "writing the Flashlight column at the Press is a tricky niche." not really, as it's not a column, no one person writes it, and it's the most broadly defined section we've got in the paper.

"Kelley then goes on to compare Dillon to the supposedly incomparable Sheila Toomey, at the Anchorage Daily News. He fails to mention which Alaska blogs are so pathetic."

no comparison was made by me, that was Dillon. and blogs that post irresponsible ill-informed posts like yours are the ones i'm talking about. ones without even fagan's limited experience in journalism - no fact checking, no phone calls to perhaps inquire exactly what a section of the paper you're trying to criticize is (you have my number Phil).

"I can't believe that, on the one hand you compared the Journal to the Standard in the same set of paragraphs, and then - on the other hand - neglected to point out the serious distinctions between the approaches toward fact presentation at the two sites. You're young, so maybe you'll learn."

if by the "Standard" you mean the Dispatch, are you saying that Don Young, Steve Conn, Ethan Berkowitz, Cal Williams, Don Mitchell, etc aren't writing opinion pieces?

so why the swipe Phil? you're wrong on all accounts. couldn't find anybody at the ADN to throw bombs at today? or are you butt-hurt cuz you feel included in the category of 'hand-wringing, partially-informed political blogs here in the state,' as i wrote in Dillon's piece? uncomfortably close to the truth Phil?

readers can see for themselves

alaskadispatch.com
thealaskastandard.com
my story on alaska standard: http://www.anchoragepress.com/articles/2008/12/03/news/doc4937176a4bbb4867633615.txt

my story on Dillon: http://www.anchoragepress.com/articles/2008/12/04/news/doc492c89f607efa323085105.txt

and as for Aaron's post - one of my best homeys - by his definition Voice of the Times was just a blog. which is true, but it was also a news outlet. when we start arm-wrestling over the semantics of what minute manifestation of an online information source is, then we need hobbies cuz we're fucking retards. call it a blog, call it a news/opinion outlet (as i did), i'm still glad it's there.

if you had any balls you'd use your little blogger copyediting strikeouts and correct your story yo. this shit's ridiculous. you sound like Palin did when she talked about fixing the media, except she's got more experience in the industry than you do.

Brendan
bjk@anchoragepress.com

Philip Munger said...

Thanks, Brendan. Hope to see you at the Muckrakers' Ball. First Dr. Pepper is on me.

Anonymous said...

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to that sh**head Fagan. He's a bigot, a misogynist, and a liar. He's one of the best examples why the new Obama FCC should restore the Fairness Doctrine to broadcasting.

Seriously, he doesn't deserve the attention he gets. Like Rush Lamebrain, there's no there there. All he can do is spout bumpersticker slogans. His knee jerks so much he can't think.

So a big raspberry for his blog: PBFFFFFFTT!

Unknown said...

Really, it should be Governor Sarah Fagan. Imagine the public rumors, the National Enquirer expose, the failed marriage, a public handwringing, the chance meeting, the accidental eHarmony matchup, and denial transformed by love. It is the perfect Great White North opera to keep them in the news. Two failed journalists, Dan and Sarah, two gasbags and one microphone - a marriage made in heaven.

Anonymous said...

Oh this is good.

The cold war is expanding to another front, I love it.

CelticDiva said...

"...i prefer a website like alaskadispatch and thealaskastandard to single-person blogs written by people without any semblance of a journalism background."

Hi, Brendan!

I have a BA in Communications, journalism/public relations--1984 University of Dayton (Catholic School with an attached Law School). Feel free to look it up.

I wrote for the Anchorage Daily News a bit back in the 80's and then again as a Community Voice for six months starting in March.

That was where you---how did you put it?-- "used inaccurate information to slag me"

"...no fact checking, no phone calls..."

Your next--how did you put it?--"...irresponsible, ill-informed..." comment was here:

"I don't think Dan has liberal writers signed up - what you read was what i put in there, not the conversation we had."

Just something you put in there? Why Brendan, what happened to those rapier-sharp fact-checking skills?

I went to bed early last night (and got up late) so I missed this post. Have I harbored some anger at you over your thoughtless comment while giving a well-deserved send off to one of my favorite blogs? Yes...that tainted it for me.

And before you wrote it, I never got a phone call. But perhaps you don't feel that "mere bloggers" warrant one?

This situation brings back an interesting parallel memory: When I used to work doing sound and organization for music gigs and concert events, I discovered that the big national stars were almost always incredibly gracious to me while the local guys were more likely to have "delusions of grandeur" and treat me like shit.

I would remind the locals that they are just one band playing one night in one club in Anchorage, Alaska. Their "delusions of grandeur" were just that...delusions...

Starting from the run-up to attending the Denver Convention until the election, I probably encounted more national media than you did, Brendan, and was mostly treated to respect and sometimes even praise.

Might I remind you, sir, that you are a reporter on a paper that folks snag for free in the arctic entryways of supermarkets and coffee shops...in Anchorage, Alaska. While it is a very necessary paper that I love and does excellent work, I don't think that earns you a spot in the hierarchy far above my Alaska Community blog. Nor does it earn you any special dispensation to be judge and jury over blogs. It just proves that your "big(ish)-fish-in-a-small pond" mentality has become "delusions of grandeur."

Linda Kellen Biegel
Celtic Diva's Blue Oasis

Anonymous said...

I think Dan Fagan is sexy.

Unknown said...

hm, my long reply to linda never appeared... suffice it to say that if you can find where i ever named your blog, then you have a point. otherwise your screed there is completely irrelevant. and i don't care what national media who's talked to, or why you think i should've called you about a story that had nothing to do with you. when i'm addressing a particular blogger, that person will know it, and you can commence your self-righteous crying then.

Brendan
bjk@anchoragepress.com

CelticDiva said...

So, this doesn't apply to me:

"...single-person blogs written by people without any semblance of a journalism background..."

How about this?

"...the glut of hand-wringing, partially-informed, political blogs here in the state."

It sure looks that way. I especially take offense to that one because there have been a articles I've posted I felt were "fair" that irritated some of my Progressive friends.

I probably never would have said anything had you not posted an article on Fagan's site that clearly does exactly what you accuse us of doing under the guise of news.

Oh, and I mentioned the "media thing" because that clearly was important to you when writing the article on Alaska Dispatch. They are exceptionally talented, don't get me wrong, and they have an excellent blog. However, blogs like mine, Andrew Halcro, Progressive Alaska, Mudflats and others have been all over the media for months. Not only that, we've been HELPING THE NATIONAL MEDIA GET THEIR STORIES.

Philip Munger said...

thanks, Linda, thanks Brendan.

It appears Brendan is unprepared to be very helpful in describing which blogs he meant in the Press article.

And, in answer to your e-mail, Brendan, no I do not "always filter" the comments here, and have been gone for hours. I did not filter yours, didn't know it existed.

Unknown said...

if you feel those were aimed at you Linda, number one you're mistaken, number two you're awfully offended at those statements when there are probably a hundred blogs they could apply to. i didn't mention ideology in that sentence. ever been to Alaska Pride, sister blog to White Reference?

"I probably never would have said anything had you not posted an article on Fagan's site that clearly does exactly what you accuse us of doing under the guise of news."

and it clearly does exactly what? and what am i accusing you of? i introduced a new outlet that i'm glad is there. read every post on it, talked to dan about it. this has what to do with you all?

like a friend (who's a liberal blogger) just emailed me, barack won the election and sarah hasn't done anything exceptionally idiotic in the last week, so i'm a placeholder for a real enemy. (cheers to her for putting it more eloquently than i could come up with on the fly).

god, i can only imagine how you bloggers would freak out if i'd actually written a story that had something to do with you!

Anonymous said...

There's one blogger who comes to mind, every time I hear or see her referred to as a "journalist" I want to gag.

Unknown said...

ha - it wasn't Shannyn though. nobody this group here is associated with.

clark said...

brendan ought to be glad the bloggers are poking at him [and hopkins and zencey and fagan] and demanding explanations. it will make everyone more careful.
i just love these exchanges.
this one reminds me of the debate some of us had with patti higgins immediately following feb. 5th.
she seemed to want to make obama supporters appear less legitimate, every chance she could -- they haven't been working tirelessly for the alaska democratic party, they just showed up and registered in order to support their candidate, and they'll drop out later. they're politically inexperienced and agenda-driven. they can't be counted on in the future and can't be trusted, and they don't understand how party politics works.
sound a little familiar?
are you automatically more legit just because you're part of a real news organization? what about fox? they lie through their teeth and misrepresent, distract and distort as a matter of course.
to a great extent, the numbers matter. PA and mudflats and shannyn and linda are getting thousands of hits a day, and many times more than fagan, VOT and whoever else on the right -- and blogs are exploding in popularity while the Press and ADN are in decline. this isn't happening in a vacuum or because people are less informed than they used to be, or less concerned about accuracy.
as far as who is more impartial -- i would automatically assume anything the Press would tell me would already be filtered in-house, in terms of what their advertiser base's interests are -- in this case, the food and beverage industry.

Philip Munger said...

Clark,

Actually, I'm seeing the Alaska journal gain traction fairly rapidly. Many of their articles are garnering several comments, and there are a growing number of contributors.

The VOT never did well as an internet-only niche. But the Journal, depending on how it is managed, might work out as a true Alaska conservative blog.

Others have tried it, but I can't think of any that worked. Some, like the Mat-Su Valley News, are more like a parody on conservative sites, than a true conservative site.

PA hasn't exactly sought high volume traffic.

I'm hearing now that Brendan has stated today that he did not mean Progressive Alaska, Just a Girl from Homer, Celtic Diva's Blue Oasis, Mudflats, or the Immoral Minority when he wrote, "the glut of hand-wringing, partially-informed, political blogs here in the state."

heh....

Unknown said...

I think the banner menu in Dan's new blog tells you all you need to know about his true motive - Home, ADVERTISING and About Us.

1) Bloviate.
2) ...
3) Profit!

clark said...

maybe he didn't mean part above about the VOT being a "news outlet" either. mike doogan, writing in the press said it was "not a journalistic enterprise of any sort" back in the pre-FBI raid days. that's more like it.

Anonymous said...

Here's the story on Dan Fagan's "correspondents" -- P.J. Hill submitted an energy piece to the Daily News and sent a courtesy copy to Rebecca Logan. Unauthorized, Rebecca ("I- like -people-who-drive -SUVs-better-than-polar-bears") submitted P.j.'s article to Dan Fagan's blog. Dan Fagan not only published it without verifying it with the author, but also had the audacity to list P.J. as a contributor. Apparently he did not learn the definition of contributor in journalism school, he missed the ethics lecture and possibly the copy rights lecture. So much for Raising the Banner of Journalism in Alaska!

Philip Munger said...

Glad I brought this up!

Brendan didn't make it to the Muckrakers Ball. But there were a lot of people there who wanted to ask him why he wrote the Alaska Dispatch story the way he did.

And the more I find out about it, the more I want to know. Brendan certainly hasn't answered the issues I raised in the cover essay here. Nor has he addressed Linda's concerns. Others are chiming in by email.

Brendan's labyrinth, indeed....

akdem said...

Brendan is a barely literate douchebag who writes for a free supermarket handout. I don't understand why you all take him so seriously.

Now that his drunk buddy Bob Dillon landed a junior Republican DC staff job, maybe now the Minor can have a cheap stringer in Alaska cover Alaska politics rather than Dillin doing it from 4000 away.

Brendan, your time is now!

Anonymous said...

Munger needs to grow some thicker skin and Diva needs to quit being so paranoid.

Here's one critics critique :


Mudflats - No doubt this person has honed a style that is both funny and informative. Light on historical perspective, hasn't been around these parts for long. B

PA - Is this guy nuts or what ? Phil knows a lot of people and has historical perspective, I like that especially when it comes to explaining the history of the CBC. Don't piss him off though, he can get pretty fiesty. B

CD - Another fiesty blogger, a lot of anger comes out in her writing, too emotional for my tastes, more boring blathering and bloviating about being a liberal. B-/C+

SMGFH - Has talent, isn't where she thinks she's at though, drinks the liberal kool aide too so I'll never learn anything new there. B-

WDIK-Steve - I just like this blog, cerebral not an axe grinder, has the CV to lend credence. His coverage of the CBC got me hooked. A

Andy Halcro - At first I thought this guy just had a chip on his shoulder, it's good that he moves on from SP. Has some good inside sources, no doubt about it. B+

Dan Fagan - Why waste the time ? The only thing worse is Eddie Burke.I refuse to go there and support him financially. INC

Alaska Dispatch - They rock, I hope that their venture succeeds, it will take a lot work. Good stuff, as it evolves I hope this will become a model for the new media. What Alaska Report was trying to be a long, long, long time ago. A

Cliff Groh's Corruption Blog - Riveting, very much like Steve's blog when he was covering the CBC.
I look forward to more. A


ADN Political Blog - Used to be fun, not so much anymore, new format is horrible. C-

Alaska Report - Great photog. C

Mt View Blog - WTF ? How come Spenard doesn't have a blog ? A+

clark said...

thanks, whoever you are. i'm not in the same league as some of the others you mention.
How come Spenard doesn't have a blog? do you live there? start writing!