tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post9015295957954547131..comments2024-03-23T08:51:09.577-08:00Comments on Progressive Alaska: A Message From Rep. Les Gara About MudflatsPhilip Mungerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14601488767955084836noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-2373357530355391792009-04-04T17:37:00.000-08:002009-04-04T17:37:00.000-08:00I'm sorry, but if these so-called "progressives" c...I'm sorry, but if these so-called "progressives" can't see the hypocrisy of it all, then there is truly no hope for them.<BR/><BR/>I'm a progressive, have been all of my life, and I do not in any why shape or form identify with these people who call themselves "Progressive". <BR/><BR/>I was leery when AFT came out and am convinced today that by not supporting them financially or in any other way, I made the right choice.<BR/> <BR/>This is truly embarrassing, if anybody owes an apology it's the Mudflaps family who owes one to the people of Alaska for foisting this fraud upon them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-16664004946641389902009-04-04T13:40:00.000-08:002009-04-04T13:40:00.000-08:00ADN, the Alaska Progressive God has spoken:Outing ...ADN, the Alaska Progressive God has spoken:<BR/><BR/>Outing Mudflats was the right thing to do.<BR/><BR/>Progressives are like conservatives: once elected they get power crazy and the masses will have to eat their own or become slaves the almighty elected.<BR/><BR/>Power corrupts both Republicans and DemocratsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-38052146403660142082009-04-03T20:35:00.000-08:002009-04-03T20:35:00.000-08:00So let me get this straight, Mr. Mudflaps is the t...So let me get this straight, Mr. Mudflaps is the treasurer of "Alaskans for Truth" a group purporting transparency in the actions of Governor Palin.<BR/><BR/>Good on Doogan on calling this sham out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-18094768484854056052009-04-02T22:53:00.000-08:002009-04-02T22:53:00.000-08:00Let's see. Alaskan's for Truth campaign treasurer...Let's see. <BR/><BR/>Alaskan's for Truth campaign treasurer is the husband of AKM.<BR/><BR/>Isn't Alaskan's for truth for transparency?<BR/><BR/>Methinks she dost protest too much.<BR/><BR/><I>holikachuk</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-22213739508496588602009-04-02T15:27:00.000-08:002009-04-02T15:27:00.000-08:00Hey, Mr. Videmus("We see everything.")Omnia...You ...Hey, Mr. Videmus("We see everything.")Omnia...You missed seeing the big log in your own all-seeing eye.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-90444994852679494472009-04-02T12:17:00.000-08:002009-04-02T12:17:00.000-08:00i might have been too critical of gara above.this ...i might have been too critical of gara above.<BR/>this whole sequence of events is extremely frustrating. <BR/>it's very polarizing -- half the people who hear about it can't believe a legislator could be so crass and over the top. the other half just shrug it off with the alaska ear version, 'well, so what? she should have been using her real name anyway'.<BR/>i still want someone to sketch for me just what that sceanrio would look like -- where nothing gets posted anyplace until identity is verified through some process and the full legal name is attached to the post. no celebrity aliases, pseudonyms or anonymity allowed. <BR/>is that where this is going??clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860613460678917845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-84794203996011832942009-04-02T09:30:00.000-08:002009-04-02T09:30:00.000-08:00Thanks, Maia & thanks anonymous @ #12. I don&...Thanks, Maia & thanks anonymous @ #12. I don't know what Rep. Gara might be doing with Doogan, but I appreciate knowing he's engaging Mike directly.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, an earnest apology from Doogan to AKM might go a long, long way toward reconciliation.Philip Mungerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14601488767955084836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-77817089692214297532009-04-02T09:22:00.000-08:002009-04-02T09:22:00.000-08:00I’m amazed at how anger at Doogan has spilled over...I’m amazed at how anger at Doogan has spilled over onto Les. Les is my Representative in the legislature here and is my neighbor. My guess is that Mudflats wouldn’t have posted Les’s note if they didn’t think he was doing everything he can inside the legislature.<BR/><BR/>I know Les has done what folks are asking - but he can’t say so publicly. That’s not how smart legislators work. That’s not how effective legislators work. Les is doing what he can, quietly, without criticizing Mike in public, to get this resolved. Les doesn’t stand for BS.<BR/><BR/>Ethics complains are for the public to file. While many Legislators sit on the ethics committee that decides ethics complaints, they act as judges on the committee. It’s unreasonable to ask that they act as prosecutors in cases they have to judge. They aren’t allowed to do that. Would you want the person who decides your case to make comments in public about you before a case is decided?<BR/><BR/>I’m confident Les is doing everything he can. I’m not going to hit him for having the discretion to not tear Mike apart in public as much as that would make me feel momentarily better about the whole thing.<BR/>DL Landry-AnchorageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-46990201138554223852009-04-02T09:07:00.000-08:002009-04-02T09:07:00.000-08:00Remember that just because Les isn't publicly call...Remember that just because Les isn't publicly calling for Rep. Doogan to take any action doesn't mean he isn't speaking out TO Rep. Doogan. I've had it from a couple of reliable sources in Juneau that Les has, in fact, called Doogan on the carpet about this. You can imagine how responsive our friend Rep. Doogan was to this. I hear things are a little prickly in the Democratic caucus at the moment, and the Mudflats outing has a lot to do with that. Don't assume he's not taking action just because he's not advertising it in his newsletter. (Not every legislator feels the need to use his constituent e-news to be an asshole.)<BR/><BR/>More importantly, Les is a member of the Joint Select Committee on Legislative Ethics; consequently, he cannot call for an ethics investigation into another legislator because he is a member of the committee that would hear and evaluate such a complaint.Maiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09751777964385398116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-14293534655398747502009-04-02T08:08:00.000-08:002009-04-02T08:08:00.000-08:00VidOm (& his or her ilk) is just trying to pus...VidOm (& his or her ilk) is just trying to push a desperate meme with a bad analogy. It doesn't resonate, and makes them seem disconnected from the reality that the rest of us live in. <BR/><BR/>That's all those people can do. They can never push a positive meme about their own answers to the economy, or how to make the world a better place, or what the politicians they support actually legislate that affects change....Because they have no answers and there's nothing to report. <BR/><BR/>The VidOm group follow the "via negativa." Rush is the via negativa. There is no comparison to AKM at all, as AKM is someone with answers and a positive voice--and it won't hold as a meme, no matter how many places they post it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-61196866377978297262009-04-02T07:37:00.000-08:002009-04-02T07:37:00.000-08:00vid gets its. She/he responded on day one to Mudf...vid gets its. She/he responded on day one to Mudflats blog. He/She stated it was wrong. So now...I am confused as to why this person is going from blog to blog comparing Rush to AKM. Vid..you have obviously never really read the mudflats blog over time...and you have listened to far far too much Rush.Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07294078594118488251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-86403977609003642092009-04-02T03:28:00.000-08:002009-04-02T03:28:00.000-08:00Videmus Omnia - you really don't get it do youAKM...Videmus Omnia - you really don't get it do you<BR/><BR/>AKM is nothing like Rush - but that is not the point - and no, it is not about keeping her happy - it is about protecting first amendment rights and AKM safety and well being<BR/><BR/>The outrage is because a political official (Doogan)used government computers and email lists to stalk and reveal the identity of an anonymous blogger (who's rights are protected under the first amendment) - it was done out of pure vengance and ego nothing poor and had the potential of putting another in danger<BR/><BR/>That is the point!Cynthia Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11499286104507733785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-36998540884324455302009-04-01T22:51:00.000-08:002009-04-01T22:51:00.000-08:00if he really said this: "I’ve read about 200 of th...if he really said <A HREF="http://www.ieatgravel.com/?p=4149#respond" REL="nofollow">this</A>: <I>"I’ve read about 200 of the 600 emails I’ve received and they’re all women and people from out of state. That’s the Mudflats audience"</I>, how am i to avoid believing he doesn't give a shit about fifty percent of his constituents? what does he have to say or do, to get a meaningful response from his colleagues? stalking someone for four months, all those nasty emails -- all that fits into the legislature's ethical code of conduct just fine? really???clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860613460678917845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-69031241309956737222009-04-01T22:36:00.000-08:002009-04-01T22:36:00.000-08:00Bob: I'm not sure Mike is still a valuable legisla...Bob: I'm not sure Mike is still a valuable legislator. I'm beginning to wonder if he is less than worthless as a democratic representative. I should take your suggestion and keep a closer eye on him. I'm not going to communicate with him though-- I don't feel like getting cut down and abused by the guy.<BR/><BR/>Just the fact that many people can't communicate with him productively is not a good sign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-73477710056465206582009-04-01T22:35:00.000-08:002009-04-01T22:35:00.000-08:00pretty weak, mr. gara. it's too bad you didn't ap...pretty weak, mr. gara. it's too bad you didn't approach this with the same righteous indignation and regard for ethical conduct you displayed in confronting meg stapleton on 4th ave. over monegan's firing. <BR/>i guess we're not going to hear any member of the legislature say what doogan did was not OK.clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860613460678917845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-356945323585310112009-04-01T22:13:00.000-08:002009-04-01T22:13:00.000-08:00I've been hanging out for days for a response from...I've been hanging out for days for a response from Les Gara. Given that Mudflats has graciously allowed Mr Gara a forum in the past - and no doubt will do so again - I'm disappointed that he's not outraged.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, Anonymous - "empty".Aussie Blue Skynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-15297644704140127792009-04-01T21:52:00.000-08:002009-04-01T21:52:00.000-08:00Bob, this is kind of a Sarah Palin empty response....Bob, this is kind of a Sarah Palin empty response. I still like Les anyway. He at least responded and Mudflats seems happy so I'll not knock him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-1351978058049691162009-04-01T21:21:00.000-08:002009-04-01T21:21:00.000-08:00Thoughts like this from you, Les, are why I greatl...Thoughts like this from you, Les, are why I greatly<BR/>admire you. I'm angry with Mike but realize he may<BR/>still be a valuable representative for us. Must say<BR/>that I will pay more attention to his voting record.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Philip for posting this and all the valuable<BR/>info that so many people find indispensable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-36258571709182354422009-04-01T21:17:00.000-08:002009-04-01T21:17:00.000-08:00Is Mudflats the Rush Limbaugh of Alaskan bloggers?...Is Mudflats the Rush Limbaugh of Alaskan bloggers? Do the politicians have to keep her happy?Tim Lindellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03185292870628786408noreply@blogger.com