tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post8057698281503613824..comments2024-03-23T08:51:09.577-08:00Comments on Progressive Alaska: The Courage of Shannyn Moore - Part Six - The Wild Ride Begins AgainPhilip Mungerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14601488767955084836noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-29975443476643940422010-07-06T09:05:00.052-08:002010-07-06T09:05:00.052-08:00Actually there were quite a few Alaska bloggers (t...Actually there were quite a few Alaska bloggers (that DON'T seek fame and fortune from their keystroking) that were questioning this story the day Palin announced she was 7 months pregnant. Some who actually witnessed Bristol pregnant in December of '07 and others that talked to people who knew she was pregnant wrote about it. Unfortunately they weren't attractive blondes that run around with the blogging "click" up here so they rarely get mentioned.<br /><br />Shannon didn't start this but she could have used her power for some good to end it. She chose not to however, by saying she believes nothing Palin ever said except for this particular story which she believes is true. I'm not sure how you decide someone is a pathological liar and then choose to believe the biggest lie they have ever told.<br /><br />I'm curious how you can state you believe she was going for a "fundie abortion" with her wild ride and then say she will never show the birth certificate. Why not? Under your premise, what would be on the birth certificate that she would need to hide?<br /><br />The fact is she won't show the birth certificate because it will not show an April birthdate. Trig was born in January in Fairbanks, and not to Sarah Palin. That is the reason why she refuses to produce a birth certificate. <br /><br />I appreciate you continuing to write about this nutcase but unfortunately your conclusion just doesn't add up. If it was as simple as reckless behavior it isn't going to say "mother behaved recklessly" on the birth certificate so there would be no reason not to release it. However, when that birth certificate (which we now know that they refused to give to the state insurance program as well thanks to the emails released by MSNBC) states that Trig was born in January in Fairbanks, then it makes a lot more sense not to release it. <br /><br />The fact remains that Sarah Palin did not give birth to Trig until proven otherwise. It's as simple as thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-24014882760406517422010-07-01T07:47:43.643-08:002010-07-01T07:47:43.643-08:00It is nice that Shannyn has, from time to time, me...It is nice that Shannyn has, from time to time, mentioned and allowed discussion about the "birth of Trig" question.<br /><br />However, if you believe the story even in part, you have to come up with a reason for why Sarah Palin has not put an end to the questions and speculation. Shannyn's solution is that "it works for her," even though she is not sure why.<br /><br />A simpler answer to why Sarah has not put an end to the questions is because she can't -- because she was not pregnant in April '08. She tries to make it "work for her" as best she can, yes, since she can't make it go away.<br /><br />Please take note of the fact that she and her bevy of lawyers has never threatened any of us who have stated publicly that we believe her story is a complete fabrication. Why is that, when she's been so very quick to jump about other things -- like Shannyn's reporting about the iceberg rumors, or Gryphen's reporting about the divorce rumors?<br /><br />She hasn't even mounted a personal campaign a la the David Letterman joke or the Family Guy criticism. She simply lets her minions try to marginalize and disparage those who continue to work on the so-called babygate story. Where are her Facebook entries decrying the efforts made by Sullivan or Palingates or several others? Where is the cease and desist order from Van Flein?<br /><br />I suppose if you are trying to build your career as a trusted voice in radio, television or the 'net, you might want to turn a blind eye to certain topics. It's sad, though, especially because Sarah's dark cloud continues to swirl and spread and even if she never gets elected to another political office, the damage she has done over the past couple of years and the damage she continues to do will take a long time to repair. It is my firm conviction that should it be revealed that she never did make an oh-so-righteous choice to have a DS baby, her entire pedestal will crumble. She will no longer have even one leg to stand on.Ennealogichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10700675493688430474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-62634387277033336232010-07-01T03:57:32.613-08:002010-07-01T03:57:32.613-08:00I have to agree with others who have commented her...I have to agree with others who have commented here and reiterate that Shannyn simply has not pursued the Trig story the way other bloggers have, such as the fine researchers over at Palingates. Even Andrew Sullivan has covered the Trig story more than Shannyn and in doing so has exposed himself to great criticism. <br />I certainly would love to join in a shout-out to an Alaska-based reporter or blogger who is willing to research this story but as I see it, no one is willing to step up to the plate. I think the breaking news may come to us by way of Der Spiegel on line.AK Sandhillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12556199113720157272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-24890408766532823482010-06-30T20:52:28.519-08:002010-06-30T20:52:28.519-08:00Seems to me that there is something wrong about Tr...Seems to me that there is something wrong about Trig.s birth day. I can't believe ANY hospital of any size would release a premie with jaundice and a hole in his heart and open themselves up for a malpractice suit. Regular procedure would have been to have a premie with issues transported to a hospital with a NICU for further evaluation. The whole Sarah story doesn't pass the "stink" test.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-12540884924035595632010-06-30T19:36:28.070-08:002010-06-30T19:36:28.070-08:00when it comes to Babygate, by far Palingates has c...when it comes to Babygate, by far Palingates has covered it the very best. Shannon has really avoided it since February or March.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-9365866711533284922010-06-30T14:08:40.979-08:002010-06-30T14:08:40.979-08:00I've noticed she hasn't been appearing on ...I've noticed she hasn't been appearing on KO anymore maybe it's called looking out for ones self instead of getting to the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-35196502271224621212010-06-30T11:57:24.961-08:002010-06-30T11:57:24.961-08:00I'd encourage you to reevaluate your hero.I'd encourage you to reevaluate your hero.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-75193261207726654132010-06-30T11:52:34.294-08:002010-06-30T11:52:34.294-08:00Phil:
If Moore isn't a journalist, what is sh...Phil:<br /><br />If Moore isn't a journalist, what is she?<br /><br />I don't think she's credible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-29810168790956423132010-06-30T11:38:12.217-08:002010-06-30T11:38:12.217-08:00Based on my historical interactions with Moore, I ...Based on my historical interactions with Moore, I wouldn't use "journalist" as a first description-- she sure wasn't interested in my point of view.<br /><br />I'm neither a fan of Palin or Moore. I think they both have a surprising amount in common-- sometimes polar opposites turn out to be twins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-82349760034072809772010-06-30T09:49:56.809-08:002010-06-30T09:49:56.809-08:00Is there a police report on the vandalism, Phil? O...Is there a police report on the vandalism, Phil? Or did you just fix it up and pass on the report?<br />Or...is this just another fabricated story about people harassing you?<br />If anyone is a whore it's you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-67886035150164994622010-06-30T08:37:43.862-08:002010-06-30T08:37:43.862-08:00Shannyn is definitely courageous, but not for her ...Shannyn is definitely courageous, but not for her comments on babygate. Well, maybe for her original ones. Since then there has basically been silence on that topic.<br /><br />That doesn't take away from the fact that she is courageous for many other things she has done and said to expose Sarah Palin.<br /><br />I hope that when the lies about Trig finally begin to come out, Shannyn won't be afraid to discuss them and I hope she credits all the people who have continuously been on this story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-13145266206810879992010-06-30T07:41:15.629-08:002010-06-30T07:41:15.629-08:00Phil,
If memory serves, your wife was under the c...Phil,<br /><br />If memory serves, your wife was under the care of Dr. Cathy Baldwin-Johnson during one of her pregnancies, right? And you said that CBJ was a conservative, cautious physician with your wife.<br /><br />So, what does not sound believable to me with your theory is why SP would deliver at the Mat-Su hospital, with not high-risk obstetrics or NICU, instead of the bigger hospital in Anchorage, where CBJ had privileges. That aspect just smells to me. This was the GOVERNOR of the state, at age 44 with a special-needs baby. Abundance of caution is the name of the game in obstetrics--for her to deliver at any place but the top hospital in Anchorage just doesn't seem plausible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-71266840894994146372010-06-30T07:12:47.216-08:002010-06-30T07:12:47.216-08:00I am not sure what your point is by reminding us S...I am not sure what your point is by reminding us Shannyn Moore questioned the Wild Ride story when it happened. Others like Andrew Sullivan, Palingates, Gryphen and others have continued to point out the inconsistencies of the story and probe for answers, while it doesn't appear that Shannyn has. Is this about making sure Shannyn gets "credit" when the truth comes out? I wonder why Shannyn stopped digging?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-67799854918848745642010-06-30T05:50:06.426-08:002010-06-30T05:50:06.426-08:00One suggested amendment, Phil.
You should be mor...One suggested amendment, Phil. <br /><br />You should be more open about the names you have called the former Governor and Vice Presidential candidate. In 2010 alone your list should read: slut, whore and (today) potential murderer.<br /><br />Thankfully you spared us your more characteristic f*ing... slut, whore and murderer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-85225496750628712372010-06-30T05:40:06.551-08:002010-06-30T05:40:06.551-08:00I appreciate this post Phil.
I'm not sure wh...I appreciate this post Phil. <br />I'm not sure why Sullivan chose Monday for his latest post on Babygate either except that the Gen. McChrystal-Hastings vs. Lara Logan topic about the media's role in reporting facts with/without filter was a hot topic on the Sunday talk shows.<br /><br />I've seen the e-mails that went between ADN and the 1/2 term quitter so, I know the Babygate story was filtered in Alaska. The ADN screwed up. <br /><br />About Shannyn Moore, I admire her courage too. <br />Lastly,we are all entitled to our opinions and that is all they are, opinions and gossip about Babygate, until someone comes through with some sort of presentable evidence.BellPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-37787086658709174942010-06-30T03:07:12.995-08:002010-06-30T03:07:12.995-08:00Courage? How about condescension. Curiosity? Being...Courage? How about condescension. Curiosity? Being the "first" to mention something, and then only occasionally bringing it up again, only to disregard any new evidence, does not constitute curiosity. Continually referring to this as a "conspiracy," does not sound like someone interested in finding out the truth. Shannyn's "badge of honor" is that she has known, and knows Sarah Palin better than the rest of us Jimmy-come-latelys. Anyone who learns even a scintilla about SP, and does not want to get to the bottom of all of her lies and outrageous behavior, simply is more interested in their own future than America, and beyond. Shannyn only discussed SP's "wild ride" because real journalist bloggers continue to not turn their back on this. She had to "discuss" it to stay relevant, but had no interest in hearing what others had to say. Many of us are mothers, and that is exactly why this dangerous woman needs to be called out on her bs. As Shannyn herself said, "It works for her." I guess not actually pursuing this topic works for Shannyn.eat whine rallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08686223729922035963noreply@blogger.com