tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post3549887106506520971..comments2024-03-23T08:51:09.577-08:00Comments on Progressive Alaska: A New Policy for Commenters at Progressive AlaskaPhilip Mungerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14601488767955084836noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-78057824931771438552009-08-12T01:11:16.905-08:002009-08-12T01:11:16.905-08:00First, as to what does or does not comprise censor...First, as to what does or does not comprise censorship.<br /><br /><br /><br />Obstructions, no matter how insignificant one may consider them, nonetheless do result in decreased participation. <br /><br />Any number of people, for any number of reasons, be they credible or reasonable reasons. or not, will just either neglect to register, or will refuse to register, and therefore, that segment of the whole will no longer be participating.<br /><br />Any action that restricts the free exchange of ideas is a form of censorship. Any action.<br /><br />And history goddess, you're very wrong on at least a couple of points.<br /><br />For starters, you're very wrong to make the supposition that I would agree to your pretentious and ill-conceived presumptions, and allow me to enumerate.<br /><br />Rather than try to lecture anyone about what constitutes our nations strength, perhaps you should view the factual realities instead of trying to substitute your personal preferences, preferences which are not based on any factual reality. Those preferences you propose aren't representative of any history, but are merely representative of you're own arbitrary personal desire.<br /><br />Free and totally anonymous political speech, (in the form of anonymously authored and freely distributed 'pamphlets') was the genesis of the social action that came together to form our nation.<br /><br /> Those anonymous pamphlets both motivated, and and can be said to have led directly to the formalized organization of those who eventually joined together to propose the documents that underpin the foundations of our nation.<br /><br />No less than the Supreme Court has ruled that anonymous political speech is a sacrosanct legal right, and a legally protected form of speech.<br /><br />There is no reference to such 'accountability' you may personally desire. No mention whatsoever about your wish that you could impose arbitrary constraints masquerading under the heading of 'responsibility' or 'accountability'.<br /><br />You may envision yourself as some kind of 'goddess', but you'd best drop the reference to history because you've demonstrated you would offer up some revision of history to suit your own self-generated personal preference and alternative.<br /><br />You're trying to lecture someone about something you obviously haven't yet comprehended, and that is that free speech means no one gets to decide what is or isn't free speech, nor does one have the ability to decide who can or cannot have free speech. <br /><br />There is no precedent in American history to support the ill-founded notion that there has to be some accountability or responsibility attached. <br /><br />Totally anonymous, freely distributed political speech was the very seed that began the public exchange of thought that evolved into the combined ideas and social movement that underpins the greatness and strength that is this American nation.<br /><br />Censorship, in any of it's forms, is simply un-American.<br /><br />freeperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-36055413957853539602009-08-11T20:44:07.059-08:002009-08-11T20:44:07.059-08:00Do what you gotta do, Phil.
Wordpress, btw, has s...Do what you gotta do, Phil.<br /><br />Wordpress, btw, has similar issues.sauerkrauthttp://run4chocolate.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-5856652754238104172009-08-11T20:08:48.744-08:002009-08-11T20:08:48.744-08:00No problem, it's your blog.
But I won't b...No problem, it's your blog.<br /><br />But I won't be registering any time soon. Not that you would miss me talking about the creepy left.<br /><br />I will still be grinning anyway. Just won't be able to tell you about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-13369232410828182892009-08-11T13:23:55.217-08:002009-08-11T13:23:55.217-08:00Oh is poor little Shanster turning into a chickens...Oh is poor little Shanster turning into a chickensh*t. I wouldn't join your vile blog anyway but it was fun posting while I could. How's that lawsuit goin girl?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-75577731595182839522009-08-11T11:44:25.840-08:002009-08-11T11:44:25.840-08:00ahhhhh...is winkum, dinkums being picked on across...ahhhhh...is winkum, dinkums being picked on across the country?<br /><br />Signed, <br /><br />MakabitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-70631772250846009292009-08-11T08:43:41.051-08:002009-08-11T08:43:41.051-08:00i totally recommend wordpress.
it seems to handl...i totally recommend wordpress. <br />it seems to handle comments well, and does a lot nicer job with photos, as well. [i switched my mt view blog to wordpress a long time ago. seamless transition and importing of the archives.clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10860613460678917845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-51560550431432072652009-08-10T18:54:50.347-08:002009-08-10T18:54:50.347-08:00"All the Birthers and Healthers call Obama a ..."All the Birthers and Healthers call Obama a "Socialist Nazi."<br /><br />They see no incongruity in that schizophrenic concept."<br /><br />Umm, hate to tell you this but the Nazis were actually National Socialists, so although I don't think that Obama is a Nazi, the concept of "Socialist Nazi" isn't actually schizophrenic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-59646830650482581832009-08-10T18:24:43.187-08:002009-08-10T18:24:43.187-08:00It looks as if we have a new age of intimidation t...It looks as if we have a new age of intimidation toward anything democratic or logical!It's unfortunate we have regressed to intimidation of not only our politicions but also our seniors .I left a comment on Lynnrockets that I was moved to do what the GOP sais will uthinise me," A LIVING WILL" Im 72 its more then time to do it anyway. I would expect that no one will knock on my door to tell me its time to die.tomandlouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14359822472600072395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-37427884682048444512009-08-10T16:36:58.009-08:002009-08-10T16:36:58.009-08:00It's not working. The last comment I posted, I...It's not working. The last comment I posted, I was still able to do so anonymously. But the one I posted on Saturday, (which was NOT anonymous, by the way) did not show up on the Health Care Town Mauls discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-39562818278271481632009-08-10T16:35:08.739-08:002009-08-10T16:35:08.739-08:00What happened to the comment I posted Saturday?What happened to the comment I posted Saturday?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-92059140656996911722009-08-10T16:19:59.352-08:002009-08-10T16:19:59.352-08:00freeper- not sure I understand part of your post, ...freeper- not sure I understand part of your post, but I will say that with a "name" attached I at least read what you wrote. Not sure where you got the idea Phil was censoring, but perhaps that is common on many of the other sites you may go to. Phil is just requiring people register and use some type of identifier. Could people register several differenr names? Maybe if they really wanted to go to that effort. But that isn't what Phil is addressing.<br /><br />I don't understand what side hilling censorship means in your first sentence. In your second one, did you mean to include "not" in your example?<br /><br />I appreciate your attempt to bring up the serious issue of censorship of thought. Requiring people to identify themselves before sharing their thoughts just make good conversational sense, though. <br /><br />Our country's strength comes through civil discourse that allows for alternate opinions and respectful questions. With the right to speak, however, should come responsibility and accountability. And to me, that starts by not hiding behind the collective "anonymous." On that, I think we would both agree.HistoryGoddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962334034096835646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-74334654097398761952009-08-10T07:49:38.311-08:002009-08-10T07:49:38.311-08:00I think everyone should move to WordPress (you kno...I think everyone should move to WordPress (you know each comment came from on the backend). However, it looks like your commenting options (improved in Blogger) are better than at other fora.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-13850945339129218492009-08-10T07:48:07.399-08:002009-08-10T07:48:07.399-08:00frsbdg:
All the Birthers and Healthers call Obama...frsbdg:<br /><br />All the Birthers and Healthers call Obama a "Socialist Nazi."<br /><br />They see no incongruity in that schizophrenic concept.Wolfe Tonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00582205751385964204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-16882082900562229492009-08-10T07:33:30.577-08:002009-08-10T07:33:30.577-08:00It's funny how the bastions of conservative bl...It's funny how the bastions of conservative blogging (RedState, Free Republic, Little Green Footballs) actually ban anyone with a differing opinion. It's not much of a debate when everyone sits around agreeing with one another. And arguments about whether Obama is a socialist or a Nazi really don't count as discourse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-3946314185724762242009-08-10T07:09:24.101-08:002009-08-10T07:09:24.101-08:00freeper,
asking people to take a couple of minute...freeper,<br /><br />asking people to take a couple of minutes to register is not censorship, beats the hell out of me why you think that is the case.Philip Mungerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14601488767955084836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-26021129805396015882009-08-10T06:24:47.734-08:002009-08-10T06:24:47.734-08:00I think more blogs should adopt this policy. Good...I think more blogs should adopt this policy. Good for you!KaJohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11043005602676549904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-66957256619862698462009-08-10T06:24:38.977-08:002009-08-10T06:24:38.977-08:00It's a slippery slope to be side-hilling censo...It's a slippery slope to be side-hilling censorship.<br /><br />One can substitute the excuse of 'not elevating the discussion' for any number of other justifications.<br /><br />Registering anonymous accounts won't prevent multiple posting by people using multiple anonymous accounts.<br /><br />One only need look to the Anchorage Daily News to see the other side of such supposedly well intended censorship.<br /><br />Comments which aren't welcome in an ideologically controlled environment are routinely excised not because of their content being profane or rude, but excised merely because the comments might challenge an editor's belief system.<br /><br />Yes,it's bothersome to put up with those whose aim is disruption, but on the other hand, one who censors runs the risk of limiting the free exchange of ideas and/or concepts.<br /><br />Again, if one raises legitimate concerns that run counter to the editorial ideology, who's to say those concerns should be arbitrarily quashed?<br /><br />At the Daily News, if one raises points that run counter to the editor's discretionary desires, those points don't see the light of day, aren't read by others, and that cannot result in 'elevating' the discussion, it only controls what is or is not being discussed or defined.<br /><br />Once you control the definitions, you control ideas.<br /><br />Proceed with caution, it's not a large step from here to there.freeperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12596406607388899845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-7094892406397354892009-08-10T06:17:52.612-08:002009-08-10T06:17:52.612-08:00Well, it's a bit of extra effort, but probably...Well, it's a bit of extra effort, but probably worth it to reduce confusion.hellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10081958857560183947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-30307557478800283002009-08-10T04:00:18.786-08:002009-08-10T04:00:18.786-08:00I guess I figured out what the little trash can wa...I guess I figured out what the little trash can was for. What a pity the spam doesn't go there.Aussie Blue Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466223487868635433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-35005805853953636182009-08-10T03:57:44.252-08:002009-08-10T03:57:44.252-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Aussie Blue Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17466223487868635433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-76630073227503838972009-08-10T02:51:52.342-08:002009-08-10T02:51:52.342-08:00Thank you for doing this. "Anonymous" p...Thank you for doing this. "Anonymous" posts were confusing to me. I tended to think it was one person posting, when actually it could have been several different people- a bit like trying to have a discussion in a room full of people wearing white sheets. <br /><br />The anonymous posts weren't all bad, but I admit that lately, I just skipped over them. They were distracting and I don't remember any raising the level of discussion.HistoryGoddesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02962334034096835646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2083200247132907218.post-57587808977531408672009-08-10T01:54:17.231-08:002009-08-10T01:54:17.231-08:00Great idea Phil! Thanks!Great idea Phil! Thanks!Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07949339594594625887noreply@blogger.com